Subject	im still new, but i was thinking the same thing
Posted by	mousersix (San Antonio) on February 05, 2005 at 3:36 PM
	This message has been viewed 123 times.
In Reply To	The number of problems at Z1 seem to outnumber the posted by colocomp (Denver) on February 05, 2005 at 01:09 PM
Message	this quote caught my attention especially: "We often deal with situations of this type, in which failures may occur from circumstances out of our control or not due to our workmanship. The customers get upset because they have no where to turn sometimes to recoop the losses. They often irrationally lash out and start trying to assign blame anywhere possible." if this is true, then every engine builder should be subject to the unjust lashing out of irate customers. after all, Z1 claims it is nearly inevitible. why is it that i never hear a single negative comment about SGP (in fact the opposite)? i doubt that every person with an opinion against Z1 carries their own personal vendetta against them. just my thoughts- i have no bias towards any builder. -Andrew '90 Aztec Red NA AIM: revescenin OR epsilaptop
Follow Ups	For all members that have fully built Z1 engine... - HakenTT 10:27:49 02/05/05 You're right but you're also a troll. - SeedyROM 10:32:53 02/05/05 Z1 responded to that thread so its fair and balanced - HakenTT 10:34:40 02/05/05 Wow, thanks Haken. I was going to get engine stuff from them - Godspeed_racer 10:53:37 02/05/05 lol. (n/m) - Rage (SoCal) 10:58:52 02/05/05 Re: lol. - Slobo7x 17:05:26 02/05/05 i hope you're joking (n/m) - BoostLesZ 12:25:20 02/05/05 you just saved yourself a lot of time and money (n/m) - Spee 13:02:46 02/05/05 On another forum in a thread that was considered dead... - SeedyROM 11:17:47 02/05/05 Am big critic of gms and z1 from while back - HakenTT 14:15:36 02/05/05 Have you dynoed yet? - SactoTodd 11:29:24 02/05/05 And yet....he has not been banned...*sigh* (n/m) - Rage (SoCal) 11:36:21 02/05/05 not yet, looking for drag rims. Not interested in dyno (n/m) - HakenTT 14:16:33 02/05/05 so what is drag racing going to tell you? (n/m) - Rbadger 14:32:06 02/05/05 drag racing usually tells you 1/4 times, trap speed, 60ft, - Chris(NJ) 15:29:30 02/05/05 :sigh:....i was getting at asking why he wants to drag so - Rbadger 11:46:57 02/06/05 :sighx2: i know dude. (n/m) - Chris(NJ) 11:51:59 02/06/05 you're afraid to dyno (n/m) - aliaZ 15:15:55 02/05/05 Re: For all members that have fully built Z1 engine... - scottsi 11:46:14 02/05/05 How are those rusty turbos working for ya? (n/m) - brahmabull (NoVA) 11:55:37 02/05/05 Re: How are those rusty turbos working for ya? - Wilks 12:21:43 02/05/05 you got that right! LOL! - HakenTT 14:17:54 02/05/05 and yet people to continue to buy things from them : / (n/m) - Chris(NJ) 12:05:13 02/05/05 "If you want it done right..." - Logik (Pittsburgh) 12:06:51 02/05/05 "If you want it done right..." - Logik (Pittsburgh) 12:08:12 02/05/05 Re: For all members that have fully built Z1 engine... - Russell@Z1 12:35:59 02/05/05 just a shame to see your learning experiences performed on - Chris(NJ) 12:45:01 02/05/05 In response - Russell@Z1 13:33:43 02/05/05 2nd - GO 14:29:49 02/05/05 us? (n/m) - Guapo 14:32:32 02/05/05 and how many times has your engine stayed together? - genic 14:39:55 02/05/05 600rwhp 18psi 4000 miles - GO 15:34:09 02/05/05 lol @ 3rd motor. - Spee 15:57:44 02/05/05 Life is good!! - GO 16:02:55 02/05/05 great! - Spee 16:08:59 02/05/05 Yes it is - GO 16:24:41 02/05/05 Re: Yes it is - Chris(NJ) 16:28:25 02/05/05 Hi - Spee 16:39:57 02/05/05 Hi - Spee 16:41:54 02/05/05 leave him alone....he has "experience". Something we - Chris(NJ) 16:51:24 02/05/05 Tag Team!! - GO 17:23:35 02/05/05 ugh, stfu...How bout you answer my question then... - Chris(NJ) 17:32:32 02/05/05 I would rather not comment on something I know - GO 17:35:41 02/05/05 funny - Spee 18:06:34 02/05/05 Tag team? How come one the same group defends Z1??? (n/m) - bassplayr 17:44:15 02/05/05 Tag team? How come the same group defends Z1??? (n/m) - bassplayr 18:14:13 02/05/05 Ding, ding, ding, Winner answer finally! (n/m) - ZBlacktt 01:53:27 02/06/05 I agree with this: - Marshall 13:01:35 02/06/05 again,You dont know anything about my experience - GO 17:16:53 02/05/05 never said you had a problem with it. - Spee 18:04:53 02/05/05 I would say most people dont put 2835s on a dd. (n/m) - Chris(NJ) 16:27:19 02/05/05 you know more than I thought - GO 16:37:35 02/05/05 well than, explain something to me genius - Chris(NJ) 16:49:38 02/05/05 Bingo - bassplayr 17:45:47 02/05/05 Ok well than, explain something to me genius - ZBlacktt 02:11:53 02/06/05 didnt bother to watch the vid, but it's probably about - Chris(NJ) 08:27:49 02/06/05 not to nitpick but i think its russel on his 3rd motor? - Magnum - ItsGotTurbo.Com - 16:53:56 02/05/05 eh, i dunno, thats a question for spee. - Chris(NJ) 17:33:56 02/05/05 Re: not to nitpick but i think its russel on his 3rd motor? - Spee 18:08:25 02/05/05 doh, somehow i thought the peacemaker is what russels car - Magnum - ItsGotTurbo.Com - 18:20:55 02/05/05 Buy a Supra, lol :)( joke ) (n/m) - ZBlacktt 02:13:57 02/06/05 one day :) and a rx-7 as well to complete the stable (n/m) - Magnum - ItsGotTurbo.Com - 07:55:32 02/06/05 Very true and a Viper is a must have as well :) (n/m) - ZBlacktt 12:55:43 02/06/05 don't forget the drum set. (n/m) - Spee 14:51:31 02/06/05 Got it, thanks (n/m) - ZBlacktt 11:58:20 02/07/05 i have td05-18g's on my daily driver *shrug* (n/m) - genic 17:47:13 02/05/05 Best Turbo's to have (imo) or jwt700's - ZBlacktt 02:51:45 02/06/05 actually, - Chris(NJ) 15:28:12 02/05/05 again - GO 15:36:59 02/05/05 really!? - Chris(NJ) 16:00:10 02/05/05 Sadly the guys who have been affected by Z1's - colocomp (Denver) 16:04:06 02/05/05 dude...you're gonna have to come up with something better - PhishZ 18:54:37 02/05/05 Yeah, it's those that see the most that speak the most - SeedyROM 22:55:48 02/05/05 Unfortunately that group is comprised from those in the know - Marshall 12:35:54 02/06/05 Unfortunately that group is comprised from those in the know - Marshall 12:50:55 02/06/05 And, some of us newer Z owners thank you for you insight - bassplayr 17:46:42 02/05/05 LOL, damn man, you drive an NA, live in PA - ZBlacktt 02:53:46 02/06/05 I won't order through them either - bassplayr 02:57:59 02/06/05 "business with us"? Are you working at Z1 now Gary? - Ash's Z 03:52:30 02/06/05 question... - Spee 14:52:19 02/05/05 again - GO 15:57:56 02/05/05 so, what's your point? - Spee 16:00:36 02/05/05 repeating this over and over gains you no credibility (n/m) - mousersix (San Antonio) 16:06:18 02/05/05 3rd time is a charm - just like his engines (he hopes) (n/m) - boileralum 17:01:25 02/05/05 I gotta admit though, its fun building hand grenades. (n/m) - Ash's Z 04:37:16 02/06/05 The group-buy pistons were bad....... - Bini2 12:46:17 02/05/05 are these built to z1's specs like the z32s ?? (n/m) - Chris(NJ) 12:49:41 02/05/05 Not sure how that relates to defective pistons..... - Bini2 12:53:06 02/05/05 yea, i'm just a troll - Chris(NJ) 12:57:42 02/05/05 I wouldnt expect someone like yourself to know. (n/m) - Chris(NJ) 12:58:22 02/05/05 You gave a snide remark..... - Bini2 13:03:08 02/05/05 It adds a lot, but again, I wouldnt expect you to know - Chris(NJ) 13:04:20 02/05/05 Well then.... - Bini2 13:10:29 02/05/05 if you need to know what i'm talking about/....search..noob (n/m) - Chris(NJ) 13:13:30 02/05/05 Chris is mocking past statements Z1 has made - colocomp (Denver) 13:17:06 02/05/05 Piston problems got Z1 into a lot of financial trouble befor - Ash's Z 03:39:22 02/06/05 lol (n/m) - colocomp (Denver) 12:54:57 02/05/05 Well.... Yeah, but that should have been caught by the - Ash's Z 23:16:10 02/05/05 Re: Re: For all members that have fully built Z1 engine... - Guapo 12:52:53 02/05/05 The number of problems at Z1 seem to outnumber the - colocomp (Denver) 13:09:13 02/05/05 im still new, but i was thinking the same thing - mousersix (San Antonio) 15:36:20 02/05/05 LOL...well done with the classic diplomatic reponse - Spee 13:09:27 02/05/05 weld a used block - genic 14:23:30 02/05/05 the weld doesn't look like an issue to me. - SniPer SR71 (Dallas) 03:14:36 02/06/05 You do not DRILL the piston under the crown PERIOD... - HakenTT 14:23:57 02/05/05 yup, saw that thread. - Spee 13:01:30 02/05/05 Just get engine done by Escort Racing and call it a day. (n/m) - TwinTurboPoweredZ 16:50:35 02/05/05 Wow...it's amazing how one post from a member - Jodecy 17:54:08 02/05/05 I'm a bit confused - bassplayr 18:00:37 02/05/05 Re: Wow...it's amazing how one post from a member - bassplayr 18:03:24 02/05/05 We kind of agree about the same thing... - Jodecy 18:15:57 02/05/05 Very true - bassplayr 18:25:35 02/05/05 yep...about 90% on this site like to jump on band wagons too - College Boy 18:56:22 02/05/05 But that 90% is just following the 10% that are telling the - Ash's Z 01:28:29 02/06/05 this question has yet to be answered: - Spee 18:16:07 02/05/05 Re: this question has yet to be answered: - Jodecy 18:23:08 02/05/05 hehe, true. - Spee 20:24:18 02/05/05 I have seen my share of Z1 negative posts... - colocomp (Denver) 19:48:17 02/05/05 Ding, Ding, Ding! We have a winner. (n/m) - ENVYMYZ 20:15:12 02/05/05 I worked there for a year and the knowledge that I - Ash's Z 23:10:57 02/05/05 Wow. That block came out of the 1st 350Z they bought, - Ash's Z 22:35:29 02/05/05 Why does the mention of Z1 bring out so much emotion? - ConVerTT 23:21:34 02/05/05 It was once stated somewhere that "The Z following is like a - Ash's Z 00:29:10 02/06/05 That's almost dead on... - SeedyROM 01:58:08 02/06/05 LOL, Isn't this place great? - ZBlacktt 03:43:29 02/06/05 So true. (n/m) - Agner.S 07:50:13 02/06/05 Re: Where there is smoke is there usually fire - zgene4 12:19:20 02/06/05
Post a Followup	You cannot reply to this message because you are not logged in.